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Angel
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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:18 pm

While I like the system as it is now, and would prefer the stat sytem doesn't change, or if it does only slightly, I get the feeling that the mods are dead set with creating a new system. As such, I am just going to go with what we have right now.


My main point is what Dameon and Akemi said, no strength involved in speed (After all, if you are buff as all heck, it should be slowing you down, not speeding you up) Also, I undestand having a slight difference in stat caps between E ranks and S ranks, but honestly I think this is way extreme.

(Basic first read thoughts, Sorry, driving and can't read more now, I plan to come back soon and have a full read)
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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:22 pm

Haven't read all of this but I've got to say, limiting stats based on rank is a terrible idea. One of the advantages of this site is that a Genin can be very formidable so they don't feel useless, while a higher rank can be pitiful if they don't put in effort deserving that rank. Simply giving a one up to higher ranks so they can't lose... Which is what +50 or more stats is going to do, is a flaw that should not be considered.


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Kobayashi Senshi <3
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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:29 pm

Trying to keep a running tally of questions that need to be addressed and the reasons behind why their being brought up:

Stat caps - hate them in the least if they'll be implemented their needs to be less of a spread between the ranks.
Movement speed - strength should not be incorporated because it makes Tai OP and nerds Nin mains 
Stats overall - why do a complete overhaul? 
Training - why can't you train stats and jutsu at the same time any longer? 
AP to Health - Damage should nkt be subtracted from the AP pool instead it should be made its own pool to be drained from because it'll drastically shorten the time span of fights
Overall - it appears the changes are creating a numbers game instead of allowing skill to win out.


I think these are so far the four main points brought up. Just creating a TL;DR so that things can be addressed. Please allow me to explain that NONE of this is in effect, that we are simply offering the member base what we have developed for V7. It has always been stressed that nRPG is a member run site  as such the members have the real power here.


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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:31 pm

Just another couple of complaints:

- What's going to happen to all our current stats? Are you saying, that a max-stat genin (Who has grinded for ages to reach their level) are just going to lose 255 stats? Even if you refund ALL their WC, that's just going to make all their progress feel empty and insufficient.

- With this change, it's going to completely ruin certain techniques and builds. Literally, everything is going to have to be rebuilt from the ground up, and I feel like that's just going to be unnecessarily tedious and annoying.
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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:32 pm

I completely agree with that. I mean if you look at the anime itself or any anime that revolves around rank, the lower ranks are always able to become as strong as those of the highest rank. As seen when Naruto and Co took on Zabuza even if it was with group ever. Naruto was still a genin  when he fought in the Great Ninja War and look at the impact he had. I feel that limiting stats is something that doesn't even need to be done nor is it really needed.

From the way I see it, this site isn't going to be fights based off of RP Skills anymore, but a number based game where the winner is the one with the most total numbers.


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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:34 pm

Well Akemi, that is something we were told right from the start will probably happen. If I recall correctly, we will all be given the opportunity to reorganize our character from the bottom up.

Also, At Celeste, According to Naoki on the questions and concern page, Military Ranks will no longer be what determins your rank (You can have an S rank Academy student if I recall what he said correctly.)
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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:39 pm

Okay so to give an assist Hikari is correct: everyone will be allowed to reorganize their character IF these changes are even approved. 

Also a sneak peak to assist you all to understand, rank rules have been completely rerabemd. Your rank of Genin/chuunin etc will not be what determines your stats but your POWER rank which will be like (C, B, A etc) will be and their completely different rank up systems for each. So try not to think too much about how hard t is to rank up now because the proposal for V7 is to pretty much have the possibility of an s rank Genin.


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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:45 pm

For Speed I have a suggestion. Instead of taking specifically two stats or whatever to average out for it, make each point to a stat worth a decimal of speed. For example Dexterity could be the highest speed output with +0.7, Strength and Chakra could add 0.6, Stamina could add 0.5. When each stat reaches a high enough point they could give diminishing benefits in order to balance out the system and keep hybrids viable. Example, Dexterity reaches a base of 70 and each point from 71 onwards gives 0.65 now instead of 0.7. At 81 it gives 0.6, etc.


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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:47 pm

Ugh my head hurts reading


http://naruto-role-play-rpg.forumotion.com/t32713-ryou-stats#248612

Health: 30 (+20)
Chakra: 85
Stamina: 45
Speed: 74 
Strength: 20

AP:465

PM me if you want jutsu ideas, I'll be glad to help with giving you ideas
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PostSubject: Re: Propose V7 Stat Rules   Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:48 pm

Even if we're allowed to reorganize everything, I still feel like it's going to be the cause for many complaints. Imagine building a character for ages, only to find that you''re forced to completely change everything because your idea is no longer viable in this new system. It's just going to be an incredibly annoying hassle, it may even force some people to leave cause they only really like one style of play. And that style may not even be possible in this system.


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