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should Clanless be able to have transplants
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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:09 am

Well, Mrs. Charleh, is a clanless shinobi, actualy, she has two clan less accounts. As such, I feel like it would be unfair to her to change up the entire clanless system, when she would be effected by it and build her character around it. (Although, one of her Clan less accounts is a jinjurki, and the other has Sage mode as a chunin)



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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:27 am

Hikari Namikaze <3 wrote:
Well, Mrs. Charleh, is a clanless shinobi, actualy, she has two clan less accounts. As such, I feel like it would be unfair to her to change up the entire clanless system, when she would be effected by it and build her character around it. (Although, one of her Clan less accounts is a jinjurki, and the other has Sage mode as a chunin)



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I'm arguing for buffs to clanless. there will always be clanless people. it doesnt matter who has it, with regards to balance.
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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:29 am

Well, agh, your rigbt! But I feel wrong taking rhat away from charleh, maybe do the upgrades, and let charleh do what she wants?


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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:39 am

I suppose the upgrades could be optional, but I doubt most people would want to turn it down, if enacted .-.
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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:40 am

Well, Charleh was arguing to keep it as it is, which is why I would want to keep her in mind for this.


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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:54 pm


So you guys... we need to talk.

Since the mod team can't figure this out on its own, and since it will impact all of you heavily, what are our thoughts on reverting to the old clanless system? Where you lose the extra custom slots and stats but gain the ability to transplant again? The staff is tied down the middle on this issue but some decisions we feel are better left to you guys as a community. So now that we've had the clanless system in place for a while and everyone has had a chance to test it out, we'd love to hear from you if its working or if you preferred the older version.

On a related note, new transplant rules are currently in the works, expect an update in a day or two. <3


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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:08 pm

I think that would be a fair trade however, I think that it should depend on if the clanless person gets a Blood line. So the extra techs and Customs would be for anyone who does not have a BL transplanted, but once they do they lose those extra techs and customs in order to slot the BL techs in. Transplants are so hard to get you would have to work around that fact from the get go. So either you would need to further reduce the techs on a BL user to off set a clanless person until they could get the bloodline or you would need to allow a clanless person the extra tech slots until they get a transplanted Bl and after that they switch to BL rules. 

If you just blanket took all of a the Clanless extra tech and custom slots on the off chance that they MIGHT get lucky enough to get a BL you'd be diminishing the Clanless completely because not only would we start with less stats but now we're prevented from becoming technique savvy enough to off set anything else until we can find a blood line to use. In most cases thats hard because no one leaves their villages, its frowned upon to share your bloodline with someone just to be nice, and killing a villager will result in MN status plus you'd need good IC reasoning to do it. 

So I reiterate the only fair way to really incorporate that would be to allow clanless their extra customs and tech slots, but if/when they ever get a transplanted bloodline they then lose those tech slots and extra customs and supplant them with BL slots.


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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:15 pm

Senshi types faster than me, so I'll just give a +1 to everything he said.


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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:19 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The Clanless (De)buff & Transplant changes   Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:40 pm

I'd be fine with allowing transplants and removing all the stat and custom stuff, so long as there were appropriate limitations (like we get an extra transplant to compete with the people who start in a clan, or maybe a couple of extra customs or something idk). I just wish the clans were more diverse in their abilities. I haven't done any numbers, but I would say a good 70-80% of clans accommodate ninjutsu specs primarily, and the only ones that complements Tai users are Hyuuga, who don't even scale like normal Taijutsu, and Chokyoshi/Inuzuka, who have pets and aren't traditional fighters. This makes it a personal struggle for me to transition, as I'm not really gaining anything from joining these clans or getting a transplant, as someone with no ninjutsu, fuuinjutsu (for Uzumaki), or genjutsu (sharingan). If there were other options to accommodate all specs I'd be much happier with the decision to scrap the current in place system.

Atm though, I'd rather keep my 100 speed/strength so I can make the most out of extra Tai customs and stuff. If there were clans that catered toward Puppets, Med, traditional Tai, and maybe even Weaps and Space-Time (which kinda exist with Pendragon and Kamui) I'd certainly be on board. Especially for Tai though since it's my main spec and it would probably be very popular (it's still fairly common) if clan jutsu weren't all ninjutsu based.


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