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PostSubject: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:05 am

just going to request this be discontinued since requiring a skill slot to use cannon jutsu seems unnecessary?


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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:29 am

I like it, it makes sense considering that jutsu doesn't really work with just chakra and requires a bit of artistic skill, plus it makes the technique that much cooler to have when not just every one with a ninjutsu spec can get it.
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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:30 am

then the skill needs to have a reason to exist, like a power or health boost to the jutsu. Otherwise your wasting a skill slot for no real tangible benefit


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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:35 am

I have to agree with Ren. You are wasting a skill slot and not really gaining anything from it. You could always revamp it and change it so that not only do you need the skill to use the super beast techs, but that it also gives them a power boost/speed boost.


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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:54 am

So the requirement for the line of techniques, the sole reason they exist, should give them a power boost?

That's like saying "You have to have fire as a main element for using this jutsu, and by having that, this jutsu gains power for no reason other than you picked the right element."

I stated before that was made that the skill was unnecessary and that artistic talent should just be a part of the bonus requirements. No one really listened, so now we have a skill that just allows you to do it, hue hue >:U


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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:19 am

Couldn't one just allow the baseline power/spd for Jutsu's the skill allows just be slightly higher (but still within rank caps and such) for little to no extra WC cost since you put WC into the skill to be allowed to use those Jutsu? I mean, I see why people feel like it is a waste as it really doesn't do much at all besides allow you to use jutsu that aren't much different than any other jutsu (unless I am wrong on this point, not familiar with Painting Jutsus)

I'm pretty sure Ris is right though about saying it was a silly idea to begin with.

Those that say it does absolutely nothing are incorrect though, as it specifies that those Painting Jutsu's don't have hand seals. If you are registering them with Handseals they should be updated to not need them (since the skill that 'allows' them to be used clearly states such)

It is in essence the Handseal Mastery for all Painting Jutsus. Not having handseals is very useful.


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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:42 am


Skills exist for all kinds of reasons, some for stat benefits, others for CD. Maku's restourant skill comes to mind as an example of the latter. If someone doesnt like the skill, they can just make jutsu to achieve the same effect I think. <3


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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:30 am

But they can't, this skill directly relates to cannon jutsu rather than customs so registering an alternative version that doesn't require the skill isn't really an option. As for your point about CD skills Aki you said yourself to me when I was a newbie that I shouldn't wast a skill slot on something that doesn't have any effect, moreover if this was something that was only effecting the skill register then it might be justifiable, but since this is limiting everyone on the site it really should be removed.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, I just had a bit of a fowel night Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:08 am

I think the skill should be kept. The jutsu that require this skill (painting jutsu) are made using ink. Ink itself isn't an "element" everyone inherently has the ability to use. It's not noteworthy enough to have its own clan for it, but it should have some other requirement to use it, i.e. the skill.

The bonus the skill provides is gaining access to use the ink "element". There's no need for there to be some boost to the jutsu, nor should those jutsu be allowed to be used by everyone as a default canon tech (like anyone with fire element can use Great Fire Ball jutsu). Ink is its own ability and should have an independent skill to reflect that.


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PostSubject: Re: Skill retirement/Revamp?   Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:14 am

The skill does reference not needing seals for the drawings. Maybe add seals into each drawing and remove the requirement to have the skill for each jutsu. I saw for the hawk that the seal of confrontation is needed, but the skill says none are needed.

Also, in this case "ink" isn't its own element. For paintings they would just be considered masses of chakra similar to the Jugo cannons which don't have an actual element. Basically, drawings don't have an advantage or disadvantage against any element unless specified within the jutsu.


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